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Results Armidale Sailplane expo Combined Electric and Winch Open Thermal 2019

The hot, sunny and light conditions continued after the f5j, for this event.
Most of the f5j fliers stayed on, but for some, the heat after 2 days was enough and went home early.
Out of the 25 that flew, there were only about 8 flyers that decided to winch,
a far cry from the previous years 28 when it was winch only.
First day and there was a prevailing light breeze from the west, with basically big lift and occasionally big sink.
Setup into wind, I decided to winch for the open, and flew my 1850g  Perfection so I could get good launch height.
The motor gliders had motor cut outs at 200m, but could fly quite a bit lighter than me. I was out launching most of the electrics,
but some were making the most of the fact you could zoom past 200m (I was told of one motor glider log of 236m)
so I was probably matching them with the winch. I don’t think a lot of the other winch launchers
were launching as well as me or the motor gliders, so they suffered somewhat.
We managed 6 rounds in quite hot conditions making for an exhausting first day.
Day 2 and conditions started even lighter, and with hesitation on which way to point the winches, took a while to get started.
Looking at the forecast and at the request of the CD, we turned the flight line around which seemed correct initially,
with a light breeze into wind at the time. Of course once we set up the wind swung around, and was downwind for the rest of the day.
I heard a comment that I was being handicapped, since I was leading from the previous day. I took this as a challenge.
The rest of the guys winching weren’t happy launching downwind against motor gliders which would easily do 200 metres plus.
Two competitors switched to motor gliders, and the rest had had enough, packed up, and went home.
This left me as the sole pilot winching, and launching downwind, in a sea of motor gliders, at least I wouldn't have any line crosses.
I flew my super light Perfection at 1700g, but even trying to swing around, somewhat into wind on launch,
it was a struggle to get anywhere near the motor gliders on launch height.
However the conditions were so light and thermally, finding lift wasn’t very hard,
I would’ve struggled, I think, if it was hang time conditions.
Some said I had an advantage with being able to nose into the landing spot, (ie no motor to damage) which was maybe true,
however I was the only pilot to achieve all my flight times, so at the end of the day, it was still a thermal competition.
Anyway we managed to get through 3 rounds, before lunch, presentations, and a long trip home.
I heard from the motor glider flyers, a lot of whom hadn’t flown open thermal rules before,
that they found it much less stressful rule-wise, especially since the launches and landings we staggered with the 12 minute working time,
and you could go over your flight time without penalty as opposed to f5j,
and of course, launching to 200 metres, which is normally a last resort in f5j.
A big thanks to Hutton Oddy, for cd-ing, and Kevin Smeaton for score keeping and every one else who helped organise, feed and generally help out
at another great Armidale Sailplane Expo.
The place getters:
1st Jim Houdalakis
2nd Alan Mayhew
3rd David Pratley
This was also round 2 in the National Open Thermal AusTour list of events.
pdf ot_overall.pdf
pdf ot_flights.pdf
pdf ot_landings.pdf
pdf ot_rounds.pdf
pdf ot_teams.pdf
regards
Jim
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Results Combined Winch Electric launch Diggers Rest 11 Nov 2018

Hi all,

this was the second of our combined winch and electric open thermal events.

Weather was pretty much perfect, blue skies, light winds,

and lots of thermals to be found,

and essentially final results came down to landings.

 

The one change we made to the rules was for the timers for the electric launch fliers, started the 10 minute clock when the pilot indicated they had switched their motors off.

This meant timing and scoring was all the same which made things simpler.

We did allow electric flyers to peel away from the winch launch direction during their motor runs.

However in retrospect this appeared to advantage the electric flyers a bit much because

they could travel to a thermal sooner than the winch launch fliers, so they ended up way higher sooner.

 

Only 3 flyers opted to use winches, Gerry, Hugh and myself, the rest used electric launch.

 

The final standings were:

1st Jim Houdalakis (winch)

2nd Alan Mayhew (electric)

3rd Hugh Blackburn (winch)

 

pdf overall_results_combined_thermall_11_11_18.pdf

 

pdf flight_scores_combined_thermall_11_11_18.pdf

 

pdf landing_results_combined_thermall_11_11_18.pdf

 

regards

Jim Houdalakis

Results Combined winch and electric Open Thermal Diggers Rest Sept 2018

 

Results for first round of open thermal for our season, and our first go at combining electric launch and winch launch gliders, with some work-in-progress rules to try out. I was worried we wouldn't have enough flyers to get a good mix, but we had 11 starters, with 6 on winches and 5 using motorised gliders.
They say melbourne weather is four seasons in one day, well Sunday's event was four seasons in one comp. we setup with blue skies and about 15 kph wind, about an hour in, it got cold and overcast and then started sporadic but brief showers getting more frequent so we called early lunch. Mid afternoon the wind began to abate with the sun was peeking through the clouds again, and some floaty air and soft conditions, and then the lift strengthening as the cloads shrank and day warmed up.
To give you an idea, I flew my perfection ballasted to about 2.2 kg, which was enough to climb, cover sky and get back from down wind, for about the first 2/3 of the day, then I flew it with the ballast out, and then finished with my light-strong perfection (1850g)
Thanks again to Max K for hanging around all day to time, which meant we could run 2 heats per round, which sped things up, and Dave Hobby paid a visit in the morning and is keen to join us, once he puts his new planes together.
Unfortunately Marcus had to leave early, so he missed the last round with a zero, and no dropped scores, was a big dent to his score.
It was good to see Zdnek at an open class comp with his homebuilt electric, managing to get some good flights in.
As for the electric launch rules, things went reasonably smoothly, I added, to the rules we came up with at the rcga agm, a rule regarding relaunches for electrics have to be from the flight line. Grouped the electric launch fliyers to one end of the flight line to avoid entanglements with winches, and with launches forward and parallel to the winch lanes while motors were running. Electric flyers had height limiters set to 200 metres and a 30 second motor run limit.
Timing was the main issue people had different views on. We had decided on the electric launch flyers timing 10:30, and subtracting 30 seconds from final time, so we ran with that, a process which several flyers thought could be improved upon, and I have some ideas on that.

 

Final placings:

1st HOUDALAKIS, Jim (winch launch) 7970.0

2 HASKELL, Daniel (winch launch) 7534.2

3 BLACKBURN, Hugh (winch launch) 7430.5

4 CARTER, Gerry (winch launch) 7423.3

5 WOODWARD, Don (winch launch) 7298.8

6 SIZER, Bernie (winch launch) 7041.2

7 PRATLEY, David (electric launch) 6978.8

8 MILWARD, Dave (electric launch) 6910.7

9 WILSON, Bob (electric launch) 6652.0

10 STENT, Marcus (electric launch) 6488.0

11 BUSEK, Zdnek (electric launch) 5886.1

 

pdf overall_results_rcga_open_thermal_16_sep_2018.pdf

pdf flight_scores_rcga_open_thermal_16_sep_2018.pdf

 

Thanks to eveyone who helped me setup and pack up, 

and til next time, happy flying,

regards

Jim Houdalakis

 

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Setting up

 

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Dave Milward nailing the spot.

FINAL Calendar for the 2018 - 2019 Season

Hi Everyone,

The RCGA calendar for the 2018 - 2019 season was finalised at the AGM on 30th August. The season will start on 9th September with F5J followed by Open Thermal (both winch and electric launch glider) on the 16th September.

There are 11 open thermal events, 10 F5J events (plus 4 open thermal events with electric launch included), 4 F3K events and 1 F3B event.  We have focused on more local events with 16 of the 26 events in Melbourne.

The AGM minutes will be available shortly.  However, the AGM agreed on the following rules for the first open thermal event with both winch and electric launch glider on 16th September. These rules will be reviewed and amended if needed after each event with the aim of agreeing on a final set of rules before the Midway Club in April. The RCGA encourges other groups to use these rules or similar and provide feedback.

RCGA AGM agreed rules - winch and electric launch rules

1. Winch launch gliders will fly to the normal 10 in 12 rules.

1. For saftey reasons - electric launch gliders must launch in a direction specified by the contest director (normally into wind) with a first turnpoint also specified by the content director (eg: 100m from the launch point). The CD will determine this based on number of pilots and the conditions of the day.

2. Electric gliders will have their motor turn off after either 30 seconds of motor run OR at a height of 200 meters - whichever comes first (or when the pilot turns it off if earlier).

3. Electric launch gliders will fly 10:30 in 12 minute working time (to account for the 30 sec motor run).

4. For scoring purposes 30 sec will be deducted from the final electric flight time (eg: A 10:31 will be scored as 10:01).

5. Both winch and electric launch gliders will land to the F3J landing rules - maximum of 100 points.

 

2018/2019 Calendar

rcga calendar 2018-19 final 02092018.pdf

 

Cheers,

Tom

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